The Doctrines of Shinjoenjie, is it according to the Bible?


Doctrins of Shinjoenjie

Shinjoenjie church, New Heavens New Earth, I joined Zion Christian Mission Center for bible classes online with Facebook recruitment, banner ads, free cheese!. I learned  later that they focus only on teaching about Revelations and their interpretation for each figurative language, such as bird, tree, seed, water, fire, lampstand, it has three levels with beginner, intermediate and advanced sessions in Revelation Theory, so by no means is this a Bible class, as they are very weak in Theology.  They provide detailed instructor led classes on the Revelation, free of charge, I have not paid or been requested to pay for any services so far, and I'm not going to finish this course as I can see where this is going.  The blessing of online videos reveal a lot of testimonies of former church members.  I was intrested in graduating with my thrid degree, and Theology seemed the right choice for me.  However there seems to be deviation from the word of God from the begining, and I tried to document the issues for later clarifications, which were often just dismissed without any change allowed in their belief system.  I have never heard about the Holy Spirit in these classes, that is the main reason to quit this course, as it looks like people are being indoctrined to follow the leader and what he says.   These are some of my observations and objections:


The water from the spring of life is the Holy Spirit who teaches you, not just the revealed word that comes through him, my first objection.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.


Before Jesus there was one teacher for each generation but after the resurrection of Jesus, he gave us the gift of the Holy Spirit, our comforter, our guide:  

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.


The 12 disciples spread the word to the ends of the world, everyone who has the Holy Spirit bears the fruit of the spirit and signs and miracles are accompanied: 

1 Corinthians 2: 4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:  That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Pastor on a pedestal policy is against the teachings of Christ.  When the curtain the the temple tore after the death of Jesus it means that Man no longer needed a priest to take his message to God but he can directly talk to God, and the disciples are those who have the Holy Spirit not anyone without it. 

Hebrews 10:19  Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;


The pastor is not a tree and the disciples the branches, the disciples must be rooted in Jesus, the tree on both sides of the garden of Eden does not represent the earlier Jesus and 12 disciples and the new pastor and disciples on the other side, its clearly written he that is not in Jesus is thrown in the fire:  

John 15:5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.


The pastor is not the well and water that springs from it, again it’s the Holy Spirit: 

John 7: 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.


Hee Mann Lee is no prophet of prophecy, his own students witness on youtube said that the 144k will assemble before tribulations not after the Covid, he changed the teaching, that it happens after tribulation as they did not have the numbers, but I believe he is someone who may have loved solving puzzle all he did is try to decrypt the Bible with an old game we used to play called The Bible Code.  It was famous in the 90s.   Anyway please check YouTube testimonies of people who work for Shinjoenji for many years and quit.


The kingdom of God will have no sickness, pain, suffering or crying then why was the center the super spreader of Covid? Hee Mann Lee publicly apologised after the incident, so saying the kingdom of God is come is wrong.  

Revelation 21: 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


He who is the greatest must be the servant of all, then why are your prostrating and praying to New John? 

John the Baptist was never worshipped!  The videos online shows the service conducted with Hee Mann Lee,  Matthew 20: 26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; 27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant


You say that only those of Shenjuenji church will go to heaven, you are wrong and speaking like every other Christian denomination.  When you teach only revelation, others teach about love of Jesus and the parables, and duty of man.   It is written that heaven is for all who are righteous, even those who never heard of Christ, our God is an awesome God not limited or narrow minded. 

Romans 2: 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.


Do we have the Holy Spirit?

Yes, yes, we do, just need to learn to invoke him in our lives till we can have a two way conversations, you know the scriptures and the Holy Spirit prompts through the scriptures!

1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.


What will all these 144000+ students as they are encouraged to stay as the slaves of the New John? What will become of them if all they do is worship and recruitment, how will they have a career and have families? I know it’s destroying careers of young people, how will they join the workforce back again?  What skills do they have to survive, I pray for all of the them, such lovely children of God led astray! I hope you take responsibility for each one, and not lead them astray, that they may be trained professionally so as they have a future, that they may continue with studies or something to equip them for their future. God Bless - rubengerad@gmail.com


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